Wednesday, July 23, 2014

FBI Interviews with Michelle Erb, Joanne Makely & Robert D. Macy


Embedded below is a Scribd upload of some miscellaneous FBI memos, which were collected by the 9/11 Commissioners in preparation for writing their report, and then made public in 2009. The longest is a detailed narrative provided to the FBI by United Airlines of the ticket booking, and purchase arraignments made by the passengers who flew on Flight 93 on 9/11. Several interesting facts present themselves in the documents, the first of which were gathered by Special Agents in an interview with Michelle Erb, a Service Director at United on Sept. 13th, but which they didn't have transcribed until the 15th, indicating to me the bureau was in no great hurry getting to the bottom of the matter. A notable disclosure concerns Nicole Miller, who at 21, was the youngest passenger on board. She is said to have
"had reservations for this flight due to her missing the evening flight on September 10, 2001 at 7:20 p.m. She was rescheduled for the 7 a.m. United Airlines flight which was later changed to the 8 a.m. United Airlines flight 93."
It is an oddly worded sentence, with the use of "which" being unclear if it means Miller personally, or the entire 7 a.m. flight being changed to 8 a.m., but the logical inference is that the 7 a.m. flight was the long-established, scheduled morning United flight from New York to San Francisco, while Flight 93, an hour later, was a "seasonal" introduction designed to handle any anticipated increase in volume. So Miller got bumped from the earlier, overbooked flight

The alternate is just not possible, as it would mean hoards of regular fliers descending on Flight 93's gate and that was not the case.

In fact, according to diagrams released as evidence during the Moussaoui trial, the seating configurations varied on the four pieces of Boeing equipment used on 9/11, allowing for a different maximum capacity on each. Flight 93, while it had the lowest number of passengers---only 37, including the hijackers----it also had the highest numbers of available seats; with AA Flight 11, having 158, United Flight 175, with 168, AA Flight 77, with 176, and United Flight 93, having 182 seats. This means that Flight 93 was traveling coast-to-coast at only a 20 percent occupancy rate.




Another interesting fact come from the memo of a Special Agent's interview with Robert D. Macy on September 13,  which was transcribed that same day. It took place at the Hilton Hotel, near Logan Airport and is so short I'll quote it in its entirety:
MACY spoke with his wife, DICKI JOHNSON MACY, who advised that the wife of her brother THOMAS STRONG, ELSA STRONG received a telephone call from her sister who was aboard United Airlines Flight 93, Newark to San Francisco. The sister's Husband was also on board the plane. Sometime after takeoff, ELSA received a cell phone call from her sister. MACY stated that the following, conversation was relayed to his wife by ELSA. The sister stated that terrorists were on the plane and they were all going to be killed. She wanted to tell ELSA where her will was located. She repeated that they were all to be killed and that the pilot had redirected the plane. The terrorists told them that the plane was going to the White House.

ELSA recorded the conversation with her sister and has custody of the tape. She has received telephone calls from the press, specifically the USA Today newspaper, inquiring about any information she might have. She has not made any comment. ELSA STRONG can be reached at [ ]
Although unnamed, it is easy to pinpoint who the family member was who was calling from Flight 93, as there was only a single married couple on board---Jean and Donald Peterson. Even though so many others on the flight were successful in establishing and maintaining cell phone connections with loved ones, Jean Peterson's call has never before been recorded as being part of the hero-myth that developed from this intimate view into the doomed craft. And since the terrorists obviously weren't operating on a strict, "need-to-know" basis, the chilling information that they were directly aiming for the White House, offers fresh evidence of the evil Arab machinations at work. Thank God Elsa Strong saved the recording of the phone call.


boarding passes

handwritten gate notes

manifest
seating chart

T7 B17 FBI 302s of Interest Flight 93 Fdr- Entire Contents



T7 B17 FBI 302s of Interest Flight 93 Fdr- Entire Contents

http://www.911myths.com/images/5/51/Team7_Box17_FBI302sOfInterest_Flight93.pdf


FBI Special Agent Interviews

Michelle Erb Interview
Interview date: 09/13/01
Date of transcription 09/15/2001

MICHELLE ERB, Service Director, was interviewed at her place of business, United Airlines, 11555 Touhy Avenue, Chicago, Illinois 60666. ERB was advised of the identity of the interviewing agents. ERB was advised the purpose of the interview was to obtain a flight history of all the passengers on United Airlines Flight 93, which was scheduled to fly from Newark, New Jersey to San Francisco, California on September 11, 2001. The flight however, crashed in Pennsylvania. ERB provided the following information:

CHRISTIAN ADAMS made his reservations through Lufthansa in Germany and was traveling on Lufthansa ticket stock on this leg of his trip from Newark to San Francisco. ADAMS booked his round trip tickets through F.I.R.S.T. Travel Agency, Mainz, Germany on August 17, 2001. The Travel Agency phone number is 23-27-11-02. ADAMS home phone was [ ] His Next ot Kin was his wife SILKE ADAMS. [ ] ADAMS sat in row 17, seat D.

SAEED ALGHAMDI was traveling with AHMED ALNAMI. The reservations were made by a person by the name, FIRST NAME UNKNOWN FNU SAJARAH. ALGHAMDI provided 755 Dehiterel Road, Apartment 1504, Del Ray Beach, Florida, 33444, telephone number 954 771-0620, as his contact information. ALGHAMDI bought a first class one-way ticket. Reservations for the flight were made on August 27, 2001, and an electronic ticket was used. ALGHAMDI sat in Row 3, Seat D. When SAJARAH called the United Airlines Reservation 800 number, he spoke with a Honolulu agent named NAOMI E. HOSHIDA. SAJARAH made reservations for ALGHAMDI and ALNAMI for one-way tickets from Newark to San Francisco. When the original credit card was run, VISA number 4011 8060 7081 5781, expiration June 2003, the card was declined. United Airlines made two attempts to notify ALGHAMDI with negative results. On September 5, 2001, ALGHAMDI called United Airlines to inquire about his tickets and was informed by United Airlines Reservations Representative, D. MOORE, in Bloomington, Indiana, that his credit card had been declined. ALGHAMDI provided a new credit card, VISA number 4011 8060 7081 0805, expiration date of July 2003. The name on the credit card is SAEED ALGHAMDI. MARLENE WELLS issued the electronic tickets for both ALGHAMDI and ALNAMI at the Burbank reservations office. The total cost for both tickets was $3,539.50.

AHMED ALHAZNAWI purchased his ticket over the Internet through Travelocity.com, 8750 Tesoro Drive, Suite 100, San Antonio, Texas 78217. A first-class, one-way ticket from Newark to San Francisco to San Diego was purchased. The seat in Row 6B was chosen when the reservation was made on August 29, 2001. A home address was given as 755 Dehiterel Road, Apartment 1504, Del Ray Beach, Florida, 33444, telephone number 954 771-0620. The credit card used for the purchase was a VISA number 4011 8060 7084 6927, which has no expiration date given. This credit card was issued by the same company as ALGHAMDI'S, due to the first eight prefix numbers. ALGHAMDI paid $1,593.48 for his ticket and a paper ticket was issued with number 01670486003885.

AHMED ALNAMI had his ticket purchased when ALGHAMDI'S ticket was purchased. ALNAMI satin Row 3, Seat C. All other information for ALNAMI is the same as ALGHAMDI'S.

TODD BEAMER booked a round trip ticket from Newark to San Francisco returning on the same day. The reservation was made on August 31, 2001 and the ticket purchased was an electronic ticket. BEAMER belongs to the United Premier Executive Mileage, which means he flies 50,000 to 100,000 miles per year. BEAMER worked for the Oracle Corporation, 517 Route 1 South Iselin, New Jersey 08830, telephone number 201 553-7054. The reservation was made through Rosenbluth International travel agency, telephone number 800 343- 2541 on August 31, 2001. The ticket was purchased on September 5, 2001 with a Diners Club credit card, number 38858001573705 expiration June 2002. BEAMER'S home address is [ ] The Next of Kin was his wife LISA BEAMER. BEAMER sat in row 10 seat D.

ALAN BEAVEN booked a round trip ticket from Newark to San, Francisco with the return flight on September 28, 2001. The reservation was made on July 29, 2001. BEAVEN is a mileage plus member who used his miles to obtain a free ticket for this trip. His ticket was reserved through the United Airlines Mileage Plus 'reservation center and the electronic ticket was issued on July 30, 2001. BEAVEN'S Home address was 5556 Marshall Street, Oakland, California 94608-2614, telephone number 510 232-5372. The Next of Kin was his wife KIMMIE BEAVEN [ ] BEAVEN sat in row 17, seat F.

MARION BRITTON booked two seats for her own use. Her trip was a round trip from Newark to San Francisco and a return flight on September 14, 2001. BRITTON made her reservations on September 4, 2001, through a travel agency phone number 770 428-4700. The ticket was purchased with a Visa card number 4486090000004073 with no expiration. BRITTON was traveling on official government business, telephone number 212 264-3869 and FAX number 212 264-3862. Her home address was 880 68th Street, Apt 5K, Brooklyn, New York 11220, telephone number 718 680-7536. Her Next of Kin was her brother, PAUL BRITTON at [ ] Britton sat in row 12 seats B and C

WILLIAM CASHMAN was traveling with PATRICK DRISCOLL. CASHMAN was using a free mileage plus ticket using DRISCOLL'S miles. They had reservations to fly from Newark to San Francisco to Fresno and returning via Denver on September 16, 2001. The reservation and purchase was made through the United Airlines office in South Bend on March 20. 2001. CASHMAN gave his home address as [ ] CASHMAN sat in row 15, seat D.

PATRICIA CUSHING was traveling with JANE FOLGER. CUSHING booked round trip tickets on the flight from Newark to San Francisco returning on September 18, 2001. Reservations were made through Travelscape Expedia telephone number 702 938-2100, ; extension 202 on June 13, 2001. Tickets were purchased as a special fare, ticketed on June 14, 2001. CUSHING'S home address ; was [ ] GUSHING sat in row 19, seat C.

GEORGINE CORRIGAN was on her return flight, Newark via San Francisco to Honolulu. Her reservation was made through the American Express travel agency in Honolulu on August 2, 2001, telephone number 808 946-7741. The tickets were purchased on August 3, 2001 using a Visa credit card number 4811690012184049, expiration January 2003. Her home address was 615 Kuliouou Place, Honolulu, Hawaii 96821-2226, telephone 808 732-8800. Her Next of Kin was her daughter LAURA BROUGH [ ] CORRIGAN sat in row 12, seat D.

DEORA BODLEY booked the Newark to San Francisco flight as a return flight. Her ticket was a free mileage plus ticket. She made reservations for her trip on August 6, 2001. Her home address was was [ ] BODLEY sat in row 20, seat F.

THOMAS BURNETT booked the Newark to San Francisco flight as the return trip for his trip, which he made reservations for on August 31, 2001. Uniglobe Black Tie Travel agency made the reservations, telephone number 408 922-0102. The tickets were paid for with an American Express credit card 372861817261006, expiration July 2002. He was a 100,000-mile frequent flyer member. He worked for Thorateck Lab, [a misspelling of Thoratec] 6035 Stoneridge Drive, Pleasanton, California 94588, telephone number 510 841-1212, extension 210 or 800 528-2577. BURNETT provided a home address of [ ] His Next of Kin was his wife DINA BURNETT. BURNETT sat in row 4, seat B.

JOSEPH DELUCA was traveling with LINDA GRONLUND. Their reservations were made on June 11, 2001 for round trip tickets, Newark to San Francisco, returning September 19, 2001. The reservations were made through the United Airlines Mileage Plus office. The tickets were paid for using GRONLUND'S mileage plus miles. His Next of Kin were his parents, JOSEPH and ELICIA DELUCA, telephone number [ ] DELUCA sat in row 2, seat B.

PATRICK DRISCOLL was traveling with WILLIAM CASHMAN. DRISCOLL booked a round trip ticket from Newark via San Francisco to Fresno, with the return flight going through Denver on September 16, 2001. His reservations were made through the United Airlines office in South Bend on March 20, 2001. DRISCOLL purchased both tickets [Both were in First Class] using his Mileage Plus miles, and they were issued on March 20, 2001. DRISCOLL'S business address is 37 Greenleaf Drive, Englishtown, New Jersey, telephone number 908 446-7367. His Next of Kin was his wife [unnamed] DRISCOLL sat in row 15, seat C.

JANE C. FOLGER was traveling with PATRICIA CUSHING. FOLGER booked round trip fares from Newark to San Francisco with a return flight on September 18, 2001. Reservations were made through Travelscape Expedia, telephone number 702 938-2100, extension 202 on June 13, 2001. The tickets were part of a special fare and were ticketed on June 14, 2001. FOLGER provided a contact number for her daughter [ ] FOLGER sat in row 19, seat B.

COLLEEN FRASER booked a round trip flight from Newark via San Francisco to Reno, with a return flight on September 15, 2001. Reservations were made over the Internet via Travelocity.com, 8750 \o Drive, Suite 200, San Antonio, Texas 78217, telephone number ; 877 439-0277 on August 9, 2001. Tickets were purchased using an American Express credit card number 37834975Q472008, no expiration date. FRASER'S home address was [ ] FRASER sat in row 13, seat A.

ANDREW GARCIA booked Newark to San Francisco as his return. The reservation was made through United Airlines Mileage Plus Service Center on August 28, 2001. The tickets were purchased with frequent flyer miles on August 30, 2001. GARCIA provided his home address as [ ] GARCIA sat in row 20, seat C.

EDWARD FELT booked a round trip flight from Newark to San Francisco, returning on September 14, 2001. The reservations were made through Rosenbluth Travel Agency, telephone number 701 254-4545, on September 7, 2001. The tickets were purchased with a Visa Credit Card number 4715960000219033; no expiration date given and the tickets were also upgraded to first class using mileage plus miles. FELT provide a home address of [ ] FELT provided a business address as 140 Allen Road, Liberty Corner, New Jersey 07938, telephone number 908 580-3142, and FAX number 908 580-3030. FELTS Next of Kin was his wife [ ] FELT sat in row 2, seat D.

KRISTIN GOULD booked a round trip flight from Newark to San Francisco, returning on September 22, 2001. The reservations were made over the Internet via Travelocity.com, telephone number 888 709-5983, on August 17, 2001. The tickets were purchased using an American Express Credit Card number 371952877312002, no expiration date given. GOULD'S home address was 53 West 94th Street, Apt 1R, New York, New York 10025, telephone number 212 222-8222. GOULD supplied her Next of Kin as her daughter [ ] GOULD sat in row 21, seat C.

DONALD GREENE booked a round trip flight from Newark to Reno via San Francisco, and on September 17, 2001 San Francisco to New Orleans. September 20, 2001 he was to finish his trip from New Orleans to New York. GREENE was a mileage plus member. The reservations were made through an unidentified travel agency at telephone number 914 835-7600. The tickets were purchased with a Master Card credit card 5410654342814917. GREENE'S home address [ ] GREENE sat in row 16, seat D.

LINDA GRONLUND was traveling with Joseph DELUCA. A round trip was booked by GRONLUND through the United Airlines Mileage Plus Office on June 11, 2001 and the tickets purchased with frequent flyer miles. GRONLUND provide her home telephone number as 845 477-2646. GRONLUND'S business address was 38 Indian Trail North, Greenwood Lake, New York 10925, telephone number 201 573-2194. Her Next of Kin was provided as her mother [ ] GRONLUND sat in row 2, seat A.

RICHARD GUADAGNO booked his flight over the Internet via United Connection on June 28, 2001. The flight from Newark to San Francisco ending in Arcadia was his return flight. He is a mileage plus member. The tickets were purchased with Master Card credit card number 5420761110018536 with an expiration date of November 2002. GUADAGNO provided his address as P.O. Box 612, Loleta, California 95551, and telephone number 707 733-5406. GUADAGNO gave his Next of Kin as his father [ ] GUADAGNO sat in row 19, seat A.

JEREMY GLICK booked his round trip flight on September 5, 2001 from Newark to San Francisco through an unidentified travel agency, with the return flight on September 12, 2001. GLICK was a mileage plus member. CLICK provided his home address as [ ] GLICK'S business telephone number was 973 657-1470, FAX 973 657-1471, main business number 650 645-5000 and a contact at his business was REBECCA JENNINGS 650 645-5043. GLICK named his Next of Kin as his wife LYZBETH GLICK [ ] GLICK sat in row 11, seat A.

LAUREN GRANDCOLAS booked round trip tickets from San Francisco to Newark and this flight from Newark to San Francisco was her return flight. The ticket was reserved through United Airlines Mileage Plus Service Center and purchased with JACK GRANDCOLAS' mileage plus miles. GRANDCOLAS' home address was [ ] A Newark contact telephone number was 973 376-7078. GRANDCOLAS provided a business telephone, which was 415 454-9163. The Next of Kin for GRANDCOLAS was her husband JACK GRANDCOLAS [ ] GRANDCOLAS sat in row 19, seat A.

ZIAD JARRAH purchased a one-way, First Class ticket from Newark to San Francisco and then on to Las Vegas. JARRAH gave his contact information as a business address of 1816 Harding Street;, Hollywood, Florida, and telephone number 954 920-1590 and 954 801-5169. JARRAH purchased his ticket on the United Airlines web. site. The e-mail address that JARRAH used was ZIADJARRAH@AB.COM. The reservations were made on August 30, 2001. JARRAH purchased an electronic ticket using a VISA credit card number 4011 8060 7080 4835, which expires in May 2003. This credit card is from the same . credit card company as the VISA used by ALGHAMDI and ALHAZNAWi.
JARRAH paid $1,621. 50 for his ticket. JARRAH sat in row 1, seat B.

TOSHIYA KUGE reserved her [he is a he, silly!] flight at a travel agency, H.I.S. Company Limited 4-9-12 Takadanobaba, Shinjuku-ku, Tokyo, Japan 16900, telephone number 03-53865371. KUGE had a connecting flight to Osaka, Japan from San Francisco. This was her return trip. Her reservations were made on July 5, 2001, and they were issued as electronic tickets. KUGE'S home address was [ ] KUGE sat in row 18, seat A.

HILDA MARCIN reserved her flight through the United Airlines Oakland Ticket Office on February 21, 2001. The Newark to San Francisco flight was the first part of a round trip, electronic ticket to be completed in June 2002. The ticket was bought using United Silver Travel Pack Senior coupons on February 21, 2001. Her home address was 10 Scenic Drive Apartment 1 B, Budd Lake, New Jersey 07828, telephone number 925 648-0384. Her Next of Kin was listed as her daughter [ ] MARCIN sat in row 17, seat C.

WALESKA MARTINEZ reserved a round trip ticket from Newark to San Francisco to return on September 14, 2001. A travel agency in Atlanta made the reservation, telephone number 770 428-4700 on August 22, 2001. MARTINEZ flew on a government ticket, which was paid for by Visa credit card 4486090000004073, expiration date unknown. MARTINEZ provided a business telephone number 212 264-3860 and FAX 212 264-3862. The home address was [ ] MARTINEZ listed her Next of Kin as her mother [ ] MARTINEZ sat in row 10, seat F.

JEAN PETERSON was traveling with her husband DONALD PETERSON PETERSON booked a round trip electronic ticket returning from San Francisco on September 16, 2001. Reservations were made through the United Airlines Washington Reservation Office on July 14, 2001. Her ticket was paid for with Visa credit card number 4388523019786461, expiration date, April 2004. The ticket was a senior discounted fare and she was a mileage plus member. Her home address was given as 18 Pitney Avenue, Spring Lake, New Jersey 07762, telephone number 732 449-2931. PETERSON'S Next of Kin was given as her stepson [ ] PETERSON sat in row 14, seat C.

NICOLE MILLER had reservations for this flight due to her missing the evening flight on September 10, 2001 at 7:20 p.m. She was rescheduled for the 7 a.m. United Airlines flight which was later changed to the 8 a.m. United Airlines flight 93. All her reservations and changes in the itinerary were made through US Airways on September 10, 2001. MILLER provided no home address or telephone number to United Airlines. MILLER provided Next of Kin information as her mother [ ] MILLER sat in row 10, seat A.

LOUIS NACKE booked a round trip ticket on September 10, 2001 through Travel Inc of Pittsfield, telephone number 413 499-4636. NACKE was supposed to fly from Newark via San Francisco to Sacramento returning on the same day via Los Angeles. His itinerary was ticketed on September 11, 2001 and paid for using an American Express credit card number 378533381811003, expiration October 2002. NACKE provided a home address of [ ] NACKE'S business addresses are 111 Cokesbury Road, Lebanon, New Jersey 08833, telephone number 908 236-7740 and 2317 Durham Court, Mt. Laurel, New Jersey 08054. NACKE provided his Next of Kin as his wife AMY NACKE [ ] NACKE, sat in row 12, seat F.

DONALD PETERSON was traveling with his wife JEAN PETERSON. PETERSON booked a round trip electronic ticket returning from San Francisco on September 16, 2001. Reservations were made through the United Airlines Washington Reservation Office on July 14, 2001. His ticket was paid for with Visa credit card number 4388523019786461 with an expiration date, April 2004. The ticket was a senior discounted fare. His home address was given as 18 Pitney Avenue, Spring Lake, New Jersey 07762, telephone number 732 449-2931. PETERSON'S Next of Kin was given as his son [ ] PETERSON sat in row 14, seat A.

MARK ROTHENBERG booked his flights through United Airlines Detroit Reservation Center on September 4, 2001 and they were electronically ticketed on September 6, 2001. His reservations were to fly Newark to Taipei via San Francisco with a return flight on September 16, 2001. ROTHENBERG was a 100,000 frequent flyer with United Airlines and used some of his miles to upgrade to first class on the flight. ROTHENBERG provided a business telephone number 212 889-5210. He provided a home address of [ ] ROTHENBERG sat in row 5, seat B.

CHRISTINE SNYDER booked her flight through A CTS Travel on July 10, 2001, telephone number 212 333-3633. Her flight was a round trip flight and Newark via San Francisco to Honolulu was her return flight. Her tickets were paid for and electronically ticketed on July 11, 2001 with a Visa credit card 4190004316546682. The name on the card was [ ] SNYDER sat in row 17, seat A.

JOHN TALIGNANI booked an emergency fare round trip flight from Newark to Fresno via San Francisco, returning on September 14, 2001. TALIGNANI was traveling to attend the funeral for his stepson, ALAN ZYKOFSKY. Reservations were made and electronic tickets were issued by Empress Travel on September 10, 2001, telephone number 516 764-6116. TALIGNANI provide his home address only as Staten Island, New York, telephone number 718 668-2580. TALIGNANI gave Next of Kin information as his [ ] TALIGNANI sat in row 18, seat F.

HONOR ELIZABETH WAINIO booked a round trip ticket from Newark to San Francisco, returning on September 16, 2001. Reservations were made by Discovery Travel, telephone number 888 324-8728 on August 21, 2001. The itinerary was ticketed on August 21, 2001 using a Master Card credit card 540510700124446373, expiration January 2002. WAINIO was a mileage plus member. Her home address was 679 Mountain Boulevard, Apt 3, Watchung, New Jersey 07060, telephone number 908 757-1314. Her Next of Kin is [ ] WAINIO sat in row 11 , seat F.

MARK BINGHAM was traveling on a one-way stand-by ticket, on a United Airlines employee companion fare as a guest of his aunt, CANDICE HOGLAN, who is a United Airlines employee. The United Airlines Reservation Office made his reservation on September 10, 2001. BINGHAM'S home address in San Francisco was 1227 Shrader Street, San Francisco, California 94117, telephone number 415 215-5430. BINGHAM designated his mother. ALICE HOGLAN as his Next of Kin [ ] BINGHAM sat in row 4, seat D.

JASON DAHL, Captain United Airlines, was assigned to Flight, 93, and resided at [ ]

LEROY HOMER. First Officer United Airlines, was assigned to Flight 93, and resided at [ ]

LORRAINE BAY, Flight Attendant United Airlines, was assigned to Flight 93. and resided at [ ]

SANDRA BRADSHAW, Flight Attendant United Airlines, was assigned to Flight 93, and resided at [ ]

WANDA GREEN, Flight Attendant United Airlines, was assigned to Flight 93, and resided at 831 South Park Avenue, Linden, New Jersey . 07036. telephone number 510 451-5091. Her Next of Kin was her [ ]

CEECEE LYLES Flight Attendant United Airlines, was assigned to Flight 93. and resided at [ ] Her Next of Kin was her husband, LORNE LYLES.

DEBORAH WELSH. Flight Attendant United Airlines was assigned to Flight 93, and resided at [ ]

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Interview with Joanne Makely
Interview date: 09/15/01
On 9/15/01 SA [ ] provided SA [ ] with a 43 page transcript concerning a 9-1-1 call between Joanne Makely and a New York .State Police 9-1-1 operator. The relevant portions of this transcript, pages 1-13 had previously been provided to the New York Office at 26 Federal Plaza and to FBIHQ/SIOC on 9/11/01. The transcript relates to information concerning Jeremy Glick who was a passenger on United Airlines FL# 93

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Robert D. Macy Interview by SA [ ]
Interview date: 09/13/01
Date of transcription 09/13/01

ROBERT D. MACY date of birth [ ] was interviewed at the Hilton Hotel, Logan Airport and provided the following information:

MACY spoke with his wife, DICKI JOHNSON MACY, who advised that the wife of her brother THOMAS STRONG, ELSA STRONG received a telephone call from her sister who was aboard United Airlines Flight 93, Newark to San Francisco. The sister's Husband was also on board the plane. Sometime after takeoff, ELSA received a cell phone call from her sister. MACY stated that the following, conversation was relayed to his wife by ELSA. The sister stated that terrorists were on the plane and they were all going to be killed. She wanted to tell ELSA where her will was located) She repeated that they were all to be killed and that the pilot had redirected the plane. The terrorists told them that the plane was going to the White House.

ELSA recorded the conversation with her sister and has custody of the tape. She has received telephone calls from the press, specifically the USA Today newspaper, inquiring about any information she might have. She has not made any comment.

ELSA STRONG can be reached at [ ]


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United Airlines Flight 93 - LoJob ID PCi
Grid layout no evidentiary points included in forensic mapping (north/south).
Job ID Shanksville Base
Grid layout no evidentiary points included in forensic mapping (east/west).
Job ID Base 3
Grid layout no evidentiary points included in forensic mapping (south of pond in woods)
Job ID Crater 93
Shot Number
1002-1040
1041-1043
1044
1045
1046
1047
1048
1050
1057
Shot Code
Linel
Line 2
Code 1
Code 2
CodeS
Code 4
Code 5
Code 6
Code 7
Item Description
Outline of Crater
Gouge Line from Empennage [my note: the rear part of an aircraft, comprising the fin, rudder, and tailplane]
NAC-Engine Nacelle
Center Line of Fuselage
NAC-Engine Nacelle
Wing-tip Impact Area
Wing-tip Impact Area
Flight Data Recorder
Code JJ
Item Description
Partial Photocopy Passport ALBAHAM [ALNAMI?]
Duplicate Check SAEED AL GHAMDI
Blank Check 0159 SALED AL GHAMDI
Swiss Army Knife
Photocopy of Picture Mid-Eastern Writing
Saudi Passport SAEED AL Ghamdi
Saudi Passport #C573 895 SAEED AiGhandi
Partial International DL Mid-east writing
Piece of Paper with Arabic Writing
Part of Multi-Purpose Tool
Multi-Purpose Tool
Part of Multi-Purpose Tool
Paper with Mid-Eastern Writing
Saudi/German Medical Card
Saudi Arabian Drivers License
Hand Written Flight Instructions
Photocopy of Passport Balgoraski Birthplace
Check #1009 Name of Kimalid Almihdhar
Paper with Mid-Eastern Writing
Saudi/German Passport
Delay Code Paper with Suspected Blood
Pages with Middle-East Printing
Booklet with Middle-Eastern Writing
Medical Tape Wrapped Around Cylinder
Leatherman Tool
Plastic Tube /Medical Tape Wrapped
Aero-Service Training Academy Card
Paper/English Arabic Translation
Paper/ Do It Yourself Pass Kit
Paper/ Handwritten Flight Instructions
Burned Paper/ NJ Phone #~s
Green Plastic Utility KniP- Handle
Virginia DL Jar_Ziad Samir
Plastic Tube/Medical Tape
Multi-Purpose Tool in Open Position
Torn Paper Card "Ziad Jarrah"
Shot Number
1001
1002
1003
1007
1008
Shot Code
Code A
Code B
CodeC
Code D
Code L
Item Description
Piece of Notebook with Arabic / English
Small Spiral Notebook with Arabic / English
Copy of Passport
Multipurpose Tool with Knife Blade
Film Roll 5 Pictures 12-16
Mid Eastern Booklet Roll 5 Pictures 17-19
Job ID Crater 2
Shot Number
Shot Code
Codel
Codel
Item Description
Cockpit Oxygen Mask
Heat Exchanger
Job ID Base 4
Shot Number
1000
Code 14
Code 15
Item Description
Nose Rim
Nose Axle
Nose Gear Brace
Wing Panel Large
Wing Panel Medium
Outline of Pond
Nose Gear Axle
Accessory Gear Box
Fuel Stick
Flap Drive
Engine Core
Engine Hub
Impact Crater from Engine
Cabin
Crash Axe from Cockpit
Entry Door Latch 1
Entry Door Latch 2
10-101451
Code 26
Code 27
Item Description
Fuselage
Fuselage
Fuselage
Shock Strut Piece
Shock Strut Piece
Shock Strut
Tire
Uplock Actuator
Fan Blade
Engine Fan Case
Flight Manual/Maps
Overhead Bin Pivot
Job ID Base 6
Shot Number
1000
1001-1002
Wing Skin
Belly Skin
Silver Colored Blade/Piece of Black Handle
Silver Colored Piece of Knife (Clip Side)
Heat Exchanger 2
Cabin
Transmission
Engine Starter/Planetary Gear Assembly
Wing Panel
Air Cycle Machine Cover
Job ID South 6
Shot Number
1017
Shot Code
Code A
Item Description
Camera and Flip
JoblDUAL.091901
Shot Number
1000
Shot Code
Codel
Item Description
Digital Video Cassette Tap
A - PARTIAL PHOTOCOPY PAssPoRT ALBAHAH
B - DUPUCATE CHECK SAEED AL GHAMDI
C - BLANK CHECK 0159 SAEED AL GHAMDI
D - Swiss ARMY KNIFE
E - PHOTOCOPY OF PICmRE MID-EASTERN WRITING
E - SAUDI PASSPORT SAEED AL GHAMDI
F - SAUDI PASSPORT #0573895 SAEED AL GHAMDI
G - PARTIAL INTERNATIONAL DL MID-EASTERN WRITING
H - PIECE OF PAPER WITH MID-EASTERN WRITING
I - PART OF MULTI-PURPOSE TOOL
J - MULTI-PURPOSE TOOL
K - PART OF MULTI-PURPOSE TOOL
L - PAPER WITH MID-EASTERN WRITING
M - SAUDI-GERMAN MEDICAL CARD
N - SAUDI ARABIAN DRIVERS LICENSE
O - HAND WRITTEN FUGHT INSThUCHONS
P -PHOTOCOPY OF PASsPORT BALGORASKI BIRTI-IFLACE
Q - CHECK 1009 NAME OF KIMALID ALMIHDHAR
R - PAPER WITH MID-EASTERN WRmNG
S - SAUDI-GERMAN PASSPORT
T - DELAY CODE PAPER WITH SUSPECTED BLOOD
U - PAGES WITH MID-EASTERN PRINTING
V - BOOKLET wTTH MID-EASTERN WRITING
W - MEDICAL TAPE WRAPPED AROUND CYuNDER
X - LEATHERMAN TOOL
Y - PLAsTIC TUBE/MEDICAL TAPE WRAPPED
Z - AERO-SERVICE TRA-ING ACADEMY CARD
AA - PAPEFVENGUsH ARABIC ThANSLATION
BB - PAPER/DO IT YOURSELF PASS KIT
CC - PAPER/HANDWRITTEN FIGHT INSTRUCTIONS
DD - BURNED PAPER/NJ PHONE #8
FF - GREEN PLASTIC UTILITY KNIFE HANDLE
GG - VIRGINIA DL JAR-ZIAD SAMIR
HH - PLASTIC TUBE/MEDICAL TAPE
II - MULTI-PURPOSE TOOL IN OPEN POSITION
JJ - TORN PAPER CARD ZIAD JARRAH
[etc.]
S
N
N
JOB ID LDB CRATER
UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT 93
STONEYCREEK TwP. SOMERSET Co.
SEPTEMBER fl1,2001
1
Code JJ
Item Description
Partial Photocopy Passport ALBAHAH
Duplicate Check SAEED AL GHAMDI
Blank Check 0159 SALED AL GHAMDt
Swiss Army Knife
Photocopy of Picture Mid-Eastern Writing
Saudi Passport SAEED AL Ghamdi
Saudi Passport #C573 895 SAEED AiGhandi
Partial International DL Mid-east writing
Piece of Paper with Arabic Writing
Part of Multi-Purpose Tool
Multi-Purpose Tool
Part of Multi-Purpose Tool
Paper with Mid-Eastern Writing
Saudi/German Medical Card
Saudi Arabian Drivers License
Hand Written Flight Instructions
Photocopy of Passport Balgoraski Birthplace
Check #1009 Name of Kimalid Almihdhar
Paper with Mid-Eastern Writing
Saudi/German Passport
Delay Code Paper with Suspected Blood
Pages with Middle-East Printing
Booklet with Middle-Eastern Writing
Medical Tape Wrapped Around Cylinder
Leatherman Tool
Plastic Tube /Medical Tape Wrapped
Aero-Service Training Academy Card
Paper/English Arabic Translation
Paper/ Do It Yourself Pass Kit
Paper/ Handwritten Flight Instructions
Burned Paper/ NJ Phone #~s
Green Plastic Utility KniP- Handle
Virginia DL Jar_Ziad Sarnir
Plastic Tube/Medical Tape
Multi-Purpose Tool in Open Position
Tom Paper Card "Ziad Jarrah"
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