(posted by Bill Giltner)
My May 5, 2011 reposted version of Closed Shop Forensics blog (as Cached on 5-13-11)
I finally found a quote I was seeking, mercifully preserved for posterity and the public record on page 69 of the Arlington County After-Action Report_____________________________________
"Dr. Marcella Fierro, Chief Medical Examiner for the Commonwealth of Virginia, met with FBI and DoD officials at the JOC on September 12. She informed them that Virginia forensic laboratory and mortuary resources were prepared to go to work in support of the response. The FBI and DoD officials declined the offer, preferring to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at DoD facilities. Dr. Fierro asked for and received a letter from Attorney General Ashcroft relieving the Commonwealth of Virginia of those responsibilities."
Other pages that maintain the quote
Cached Killtown page "Who was in charge of body recovery at the Pentagon and where would the forensic investigations of recovered bodies by held?"
"The FBI...was responsible for the entire crime scene operation, including evidence gathering and body recovery. That operation engaged more than 700 FBI agents at the Pentagon, assisted by hundreds of people from other organizations.Killtown omits the last sentence, "Dr. Fierro asked for and received a letter from Attorney General Ashcroft relieving the Commonwealth of Virginia of those responsibilities."
Dr. Marcella Fierro, Chief Medical Examiner for the Commonwealth of Virginia, met with FBI and DoD officials at the JOC on September 12. She informed them that Virginia forensic laboratory and mortuary resources were prepared to go to work in support of the response. The FBI and DoD officials declined the offer, preferring to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at DoD facilities.
The FBI has extensive experience in, and is responsible for, collecting evidence and investigating terrorist acts. It also has extensive experience in crime scene mortuary operations. Under the leadership of FBI Special Agent Tara Bloesch, a temporary morgue was established in the loading dock area of the North Parking Lot. Remains were photographed, labeled, and prepared for transport to Dover Air Force Base (AFB) in Delaware for forensic testing, identification, and processing for burial.
On the afternoon of September 11, Dr. Marcella Fierro, the Virginia Chief Medical Examiner, met with ASAC Blecksmith and asserted the responsibility of her office regarding the autopsies of victims of the terrorist attack. The FBI felt strongly that the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), with which the FBI has long-standing working relations, should perform the autopsies.
The FBI began collecting evidence immediately after arriving at the Pentagon incident site on September 11. As fire and rescue efforts proceeded, FBI activity involving evidence recovery and removal of bodies and body parts became a 24-hour operation.
As they encountered bodies, parts of bodies, and other evidence linked to the crime, they called forward the FBI contingent assigned to each team. Each item was photographed, numbered, and tagged. This information, along with a diagram showing where the evidence was found, was given to one of the soldiers from the Army’s Old Guard, the 3rd Infantry Regiment from Fort Myer, VA, who transported the human remains to the FBI’s temporary morgue at the North Parking Lot loading dock. Sixty soldiers supported the FBI on each 12-hour shift.
The doors remained closed except when receiving remains, and a large tarp was hung to safeguard the privacy of the morgue. The DPS, the FBI Critical Incident Response Group (CIRG), the ACPD SWAT team, the U.S. Marshals Service, and military police from MDW provided security at different times throughout the operation.
At the morgue, remains were photographed and labeled, and a record was prepared before they were released for transport. Twice each day, refrigerated trucks provided by the military carried remains to Davidson Army Airfield at Fort Belvoir, VA, where Army helicopters flew them to the AFIP at Dover Air Force Base (AFB), DE. FBI agents rode in the trucks, participated in the escort, and accompanied the remains during the flight to preserve the chain of custody. The Virginia State Police escorted the trucks to Fort Belvoir.
Because of the volume of debris inside the Pentagon, front-end loaders were used to load the debris in dump trucks, which carried the debris to a sifting operation in the North Parking Lot. Special Agent Samuel Simon and Special Agent Jeffrey Bedford ran the 2 shifts of the 24-hour a day sifting operation, which was extremely labor intensive. Volunteers from the FBI, Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), EPA, BATF, Arlington County and mutual-aid law enforcement agencies, MDW, and others worked around the clock with 200 or more persons on each shift. BATF heavy equipment operators spread rubble from inside the Pentagon. Metropolitan Police Department cadaver dogs worked through the debris, then volunteers carefully raked the area searching for body parts, personal effects, evidence, and classified documents. Papers of any type were turned over to the DPS to determine if they contained classified materials and, if so, to safeguard them. The sifting operation produced about 70 percent of the body parts processed at the morgue.
Only one of four senior WFO leaders was present at headquarters on the morning of September 11. Fortunately, SAC Eberhart had a great deal of related experience. He served as ASAC in New York when TWA Flight #800 crashed on July 17,1996. He also led the WFO Evidence Recovery Team to Kosovo during the war crimes investigation." -Arlington County After-Action Report
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The FBI...was responsible for the entire crime scene operation, including evidence gathering and body recovery. That operation engaged more than 700 FBI agents at the Pentagon, assisted by hundreds of people from other organizations.
Dr. Marcella Fierro, Chief Medical Examiner for the Commonwealth of Virginia, met with FBI and DoD officials at the JOC on September 12. She informed them that Virginia forensic laboratory and mortuary resources were prepared to go to work in support of the response. The FBI and DoD officials declined the offer, preferring to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at DoD facilities. The FBI has extensive experience in, and is responsible for, collecting evidence and investigating terrorist acts. It also has extensive experience in crime scene mortuary operations. Under the leadership of FBI Special Agent Tara Bloesch, a temporary morgue was established in the loading dock area of the North Parking Lot. Remains were photographed, labeled, and prepared for transport to Dover Air Force Base (AFB) in Delaware for forensic testing, identification, and processing for burial.
On the afternoon of September 11, Dr. Marcella Fierro, the Virginia Chief Medical Examiner, met with ASAC Blecksmith and asserted the responsibility of her office regarding the autopsies of victims of the terrorist attack. The FBI felt strongly that the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), with which the FBI has long-standing working relations, should perform the autopsies. The FBI began collecting evidence immediately after arriving at the Pentagon incident site on September 11. As fire and rescue efforts proceeded, FBI activity involving evidence recovery and removal of bodies and body parts became a 24-hour operation.
As they encountered bodies, parts of bodies, and other evidence linked to the crime, they called forward the FBI contingent assigned to each team. Each item was photographed, numbered, and tagged. This information, along with a diagram showing where the evidence was found, was given to one of the soldiers from the Army’s Old Guard, the 3rd Infantry Regiment from Fort Myer, VA, who transported the human remains to the FBI’s temporary morgue at the North Parking Lot loading dock. Sixty soldiers supported the FBI on each 12-hour shift.
The doors remained closed except when receiving remains, and a large tarp was hung to safeguard the privacy of the morgue. The DPS, the FBI Critical Incident Response Group (CIRG), the ACPD SWAT team, the U.S. Marshals Service, and military police from MDW provided security at different times throughout the operation.
At the morgue, remains were photographed and labeled, and a record was prepared before they were released for transport. Twice each day, refrigerated trucks provided by the military carried remains to Davidson Army Airfield at Fort Belvoir, VA, where Army helicopters flew them to the AFIP at Dover Air Force Base (AFB), DE. FBI agents rode in the trucks, participated in the escort, and accompanied the remains during the flight to preserve the chain of custody. The Virginia State Police escorted the trucks to Fort Belvoir.
Because of the volume of debris inside the Pentagon, front-end loaders were used to load the debris in dump trucks, which carried the debris to a sifting operation in the North Parking Lot. Special Agent Samuel Simon and Special Agent Jeffrey Bedford ran the 2 shifts of the 24-hour a day sifting operation, which was extremely labor intensive. Volunteers from the FBI, Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA), EPA, BATF, Arlington County and mutual-aid law enforcement agencies, MDW, and others worked around the clock with 200 or more persons on each shift. BATF heavy equipment operators spread rubble from inside the Pentagon. Metropolitan Police Department cadaver dogs worked through the debris, then volunteers carefully raked the area searching for body parts, personal effects, evidence, and classified documents. Papers of any type were turned over to the DPS to determine if they contained classified materials and, if so, to safeguard them. The sifting operation produced about 70 percent of the body parts processed at the morgue.
Only one of four senior WFO leaders was present at headquarters on the morning of September 11. Fortunately, SAC Eberhart had a great deal of related experience. He served as ASAC in New York when TWA Flight #800 crashed on July 17,1996. He also led the WFO Evidence Recovery Team to Kosovo during the war crimes investigation." -Arlington County After-Action Report
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This is Google's cache of http://www.conspiracycafe.net/forum/index.php?/topic/1645-the-pentagon-strike/page__st__60. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on May 5, 2011 10:08:48 GMT
Cary Posted 09 May 2006 - 01:27 AM
HUMAN REMAINS?__________________________________
On the afternoon of September 11, Dr. Marcella Fierro, the Virginia Chief Medical Examiner, met with ASAC Blecksmith and asserted the responsibility of her office regarding the autopsies of victims of the terrorist attack. The FBI felt strongly that the Armed Forces Institute of pathology (AFIP), with which the FBI has long-standing working relations, should perform the autopsies. Dr. Fierro requested and received a letter from Attorney General Ashcroft transferring responsibility for the medical examinations to the FBI.
She informed them that Virginia forensic laboratory and mortuary resources were prepared to go to work in support of the response. The FBI and DOD officials declined the offer, preferring to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at DOD facilities.
..Army helicopters flew them (the remains) to the AFIP at Dover Air Force Base (AFB), DE. FBI agents rode in the trucks, participated in the escort, and accompanied the remains during the flight to preserve the chain of custody.
(Arlington County After-Action Report)
cache of http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?investigations:_a_detailed_look=investigations&timeline=complete_911_timeline
September 12, 2001: Virginia Chief Medical Examiner in ‘Tug of War’ Over Who Should do Autopsies of Pentagon Victims
Dr. Marcella Fierro [Source: Ernie Branson]Virginia Chief Medical Examiner Dr. Marcella Fierro, believing that state forensic pathologists have jurisdiction over the Pentagon’s land, reassigns staff from three other regional offices to the Northern Virginia office in order to conduct postmortem examinations on victims of the Pentagon attack. However, following what the Washington Post calls a “behind-the-scenes tug of war,” after FBI and Defense Department officials meet with her they instead opt to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at Defense Department facilities. Fierro requests and later receives a letter from Attorney General John Ashcroft relieving her department of its responsibilities. [Washington Post, 9/13/2001; US Department of Health and Human Services, 7/2002, pp. A-47]
Entity Tags: Federal Bureau of Investigation, US Department of Defense, Marcella Fierro
Timeline Tags: 9/11 Timeline
Category Tags: Other 9/11 Investigations
Timeline Tags: 9/11 Timeline
Category Tags: Other 9/11 Investigations
From the link provided above, which was to the Arlington County After-Action Reportr:
US Department of Health and Human Services, 7/2002, pp. A-47]
This was a fire and rescue incident within the broader context of a terrorist-----------------------------------------
attack. Coordination and collaboration with the FBI was critical to operational
success. This relationship began well before September 11, 2001. When Special
Agent Combs was assigned to the FBI WFO NCRS in 1998, his duties included
Fire Service Liaison. As a former New York firefighter, Special Agent Combs put
in place a proactive liaison program, regularly visiting area fire department
leaders and teaching courses at area fire academies on terrorism, weapons of
mass destruction (WMD), and roles and responsibilities of the FBI. All of this
paid handsome dividends on September 11 and the days that followed.
Dr. Marcella Fierro, Chief Medical Examiner for the Commonwealth of Virginia,
met with FBI and DoD officials at the JOC on September 12. She informed them
that Virginia forensic laboratory and mortuary resources were prepared to go to
work in support of the response. The FBI and DoD officials declined the offer,
preferring to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at DoD facilities. Dr. Fierro
asked for and received a letter from Attorney General Ashcroft relieving the
Commonwealth of Virginia of those responsibilities.
The FBI has extensive experience in, and is responsible for, collecting evidence
and investigating terrorist acts. It also has extensive experience in crime scene
mortuary operations. Under the leadership of FBI Special Agent Tara Bloesch, a
temporary morgue was established in the loading dock area of the North Parking
Lot. Remains were photographed, labeled, and prepared for transport to Dover
Air Force Base (AFB) in Delaware for forensic testing, identification, and
processing for burial.
DNA Evidence Can Be Fabricated, Scientists Show (CIT Research Forum)
onesliceshort Posted: Aug 21 2009, 07:26 PM
Very good information posted by OneSliceShort
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Put "Till this day I haven't seen a drop of blood" in Google and four hits return---three to me and the forth to:
Different 9/11 Perspective - Clitical Discussion Forum
87 posts - 15 authors - Last post: Apr 9, 2006
The plane evaporates into thin air but the bodies didn't? I believe the coroners said "Till this day I haven't seen a drop of blood. ...
forum.clitical.com/cgi-bin/clitical-forum/Blah.pl?m.../s-all/ - Cached
Although I could not find the quote within the thread, even the Cached version.
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So either "Till this day I haven't seen a drop of blood." is the actionable quote or "page 69" is, since there is no page 69 anywhere in the ACAAR. It could simply have been a mistake on my part, but he organization and pagination in the report is very strange in any case.
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From:
Russell Pickering and 9/11 - Page 2 - JREF Forum
"On the afternoon of September 11, Dr. Marcella Fierro, the Virginia Chief Medical Examiner, met with ASAC Blecksmith and asserted the responsibility of her office regarding the autopsies of victims of the terrorist attack. The FBI felt strongly that the Armed Forces Institute of pathology (AFIP), with which the FBI has long-standing working relations, should perform the autopsies. Dr. Fierro requested and received a letter from Attorney General Ashcroft transferring responsibility for the medical examinations to the FBI.----------------------------------------------------
She informed them that Virginia forensic laboratory and mortuary resources were prepared to go to work in support of the response. The FBI and DOD officials declined the offer, preferring to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at DOD facilities."
http://www.arlingtonva.us/department...ter_report.pdf
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Dead Link to ACAAR:
http://www.arlingtonva.us/web/pdfinfo.aspx
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From: Annex C, Part 3, Section 2, p. C.51
On the afternoon of September 11, Dr. Marcella Fierro, the Virginia Chief Medical
Examiner, met with ASAC Blecksmith and asserted the responsibility of her office
regarding the autopsies of victims of the terrorist attack. The FBI felt strongly
that the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), with which the FBI has
long-standing working relations, should perform the autopsies. Dr. Fierro
requested and received a letter from Attorney General Ashcroft transferring
responsibility for the medical examinations to the FBI.
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From: http://www.trytolive.com/c0589.htm
Go to 7485
http://www.rense.com/general67/911pass.htm
911 Flight 93
Passengers 'Lost'
By Jon Carlson
carlson.jon@att.net
9-25-5
With continued support for the Iraq War and the 9/11 coverup widespread among the Democrats (Hillary and Kerry for more troops besides), Cindy Sheehan, Rita, Katrina, Ellen Mariani, VK Durham, Mary Schneider, Janet Parker, Kay Griggs, Mary Francis Berry, the Jersey Girls, and Sibel Edmonds are demolishing the Bush administration. NOW Devvy Kidd has gone to Pennsylvania to find out what really happened with alleged Flight 93. Seems that the country coroner has not filed any reports and doesn't want to talk about it! Devvy concludes:
Third, there is something not right about the county coroner, Wallace Miller, never filing a single report as the coroner of record. During my testy interview with him, he denies making any reports to his client, the FBI. Miller was acting in his official capacity as the county coroner and he didn't file one single report after doing months of work at that crash site? No photos? Nothing but some documentation on DNA testing? I'm afraid I don't believe this for a second.
Go to 7484
http://www.devvy.com/flight_93_part_3.html
By state statute state and county coroners and pathologists have jurisdiction over autopsy reports. Apparently, the FBI uses the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology when it is in coverup mode. Here is what occurred at the Pentagon and the same thing probably happened in Pennsylvania:
Dr. Marcella Fierro, Chief Medical Examiner for the Commonwealth of Virginia, met with FBI and DoD officials at the JOC on September 12. She informed them that Virginia forensic laboratory and mortuary resources were prepared to go to work in support of the response. The FBI and DoD officials declined the offer, preferring to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at DoD facilities.
Go to 7483
http://www.arlingtonva.us/departments/Fire/edu/
about/FireEduAboutAfterReport.aspx
Go to 7482
http://thewebfairy.com/killtown/flight77/fatalities.html
Dr.Thomas R. Olmsted. M.D. filed a FOIA request with DOD to obtain autopsy reports on the Pentagon 9/11 event. Among many questions Dr. Olmsted brings up, clearly NO ARABS onboard the Pentagon aircraft BUT Barbara Olson was aboard according to AFIP:
Go to 7481
http://www.sierratimes.com/03/07/02/article_tro.htm
A Breaking report claims Barbara Olson was found on the Polish-German border. If that story holds up it brings further questioning of AFIP reports and the government 9/11 conspiracy story:
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Excellent investigative piece:
http://www.devvy.com/flight_93_part_3.html
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The quote below returns only 6 hits, three of them to my defunct blog.
"Dr. Fierro asked for and received a letter from Attorney General Ashcroft relieving the Commonwealth of Virginia of those responsibilities."
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ARLINGTON COUNTY: After-Action Report on the Response to the September 11 Terrorist Attack on the Pentagon
The following quote is from ANNEX A; SECTION 5: page A 47,
Dr. Marcella Fierro, Chief Medical Examiner for the Commonwealth of Virginia, met with FBI and DoD officials at the JOC on September 12. She informed them that Virginia forensic laboratory and mortuary resources were prepared to go to work in support of the response. The FBI and DoD officials declined the offer, preferring to conduct forensic and mortuary activities at DoD facilities. Dr. Fierro asked for and received a letter from Attorney General Ashcroft relieving the Commonwealth of Virginia of those responsibilities.
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