How any member of the New York City Fire Department could feign a lack of knowledge of this discrepancy, wherein the stories of these two men's deaths have become somehow redacted into one self-serving lie, proves to my satisfaction that the New York City Fire Department members are key co-conspirators before the fact---in on the vast conspiracy of 9/11 as fully as any participant revealed, or as yet unrevealed.
And both Father Mychal Judge and Danny Suhr were murder victims, done in by their own "band of brothers."
The testimony of Captain Paul Conlon gives the fullest "official" version of Suhr's demise.
Conlon gave out the riding positions for Engine 216, with the help of Dan Suhr, who was the senior man working that day. Suhr had the control (or "hookup" as he called it, according to Conlon,) Ted Murray was the chauffeur, "Chris" was the nozzle, Tony Sanseviro was the backup, and John Johnson was a proby. "I gave him the door---he was going to be our fifth man," says Conlon.
They find Chief Barbara. He was south of the South Pedestrian Bridge, so he was somewhere along West Street between Albany and Liberty. Barbara directs the men to the lobby command post inside the entrance of Tower 2.
"Engine 216 was kind of leading the way with 205 and 217 right behind us...We get about halfway there, with no companies in front of us and Dan Suhr gets hit with a jumper. He was right to my right and behind me. It was as if he exploded. It wasn't like you heard something falling and you could jump out of the way. He gets hit... We both say, let's get him underneath the scaffolding across the way on the north side of 90 West Street, at that time there was scaffolding up."Meanwhile, Firefighter Christopher Patrick Murray from the 205, reports,
"So we go to pick him up. He's big guy. Other firemen stopped to help us pick him up. I didn't know who at that time. I've heard who since. I think all of 205 Engine stopped to help us pick him up and think two members of 217 stopped to help us. I don't know who helped actually pick him up or who helped do other stuff. We were taking his coat off. We were picking him up. Someone picked up his helmet and things like that.
"Called Engine 216 to command post Mayday. I have member with life-threatening injury. One of the guys says he still has a pulse. They took his pulse right on the ground there. We got him under the scaffolding.
"When I called the Mayday I also called for an ambulance at West and Liberty because they couldn't have gotten an ambulance any closer to us. I didn't realize where Liberty was really. I thought I was at Liberty. I guess was at Albany. I called for the ambulance. I called the Mayday. We get him under the scaffolding, two guys come running up with a long board, two firemen came running up with an orange long board. They must have gotten it off their rig. Think they were from 217.
"We put the long board down. We put him on the long board. We take off his coat, and his mask, whatever wasn't off already. The guys were doing CPR. The ambulance came up pretty quickly. They came running down the bloc, two medics, or they might have been EMTs. They were medics.
"Two medics came running down the block with stretcher. They put the stretcher down. We picked up the long board, put it on, we strap him on. One of the medics opens up his bag and starts going through his protocol. He's starting to take out syringes, you know. I said to him, "Let's just get him to the hospital," because, very often they go through that protocol and it takes a long time." He said, "Yeah, you're right," so he closes up his bag.
"We wheel him to the ambulance, and put him in the ambulance. As we were putting him in, as the guys were putting him in, I called again, "216 to command post for police escort." Because it took us a long time, we hit lot of traffic getting there and I just pictured them having trouble getting out of there.
"Right as I called for it, a highway cop---I talked to Chief Barbara again. A highway cop comes by and I flag him down. He comes shooting over. I tell him what we want to do. I didn't know where they were going yet. I asked the EMT, "where are you going?" He said, "St. Vincent's." I went back and said "They're going to St. Vincent's." Is that all right? So he winds his way in front of the ambulance.
"When I got back to the ambulance, Dr. Kelly was in there. I don't know where she came from. She's still kind of just about about stepping out. She's looking at him. She goes to step out. I help her down. She looked at me, gave me a shake of the head like he's not going to make it.
"Two guys from 216 are in there doing CPR and I closed the doors and the ambulance takes off. I look around and its me and the proby that's the only guy that's left. I look at our gear where we dropped it, which is between us and the entrance. I think we can get that in minute..."
"At this time we witnessed a lot of jumpers, a lot of debris falling off of the building. I don't know if you want to talk about Danny Suhr because we eventually got involved with Danny Suhr.Murray never mentions the names of the other members from the 205.
"Question: Who is that?
"Murray: He's another fireman. I think he's from 216, but I'm not sure. Danny Suhr, it's rumored he got hit by a jumper.
"Question: You tell me everything. This will help us.
"Murray: Standing on West Street across from Liberty, watching the jumpers, we saw a jumper come off the south side of the south tower, which would be the side facing Liberty Street, say on the cross street, a good distance to the southeast corner of this parking lot, which would actually be the Northwest corner of Cedar and Washington, which is where Danny Suhr and his company, which, again, I believe was 216, they were forming up to make their way to the towers. Danny Suhr got struck. Approximately a half a minute to a minute later we came upon the scene, stopped to help Danny Suhr, dropped our roll-ups, grabbed a bunch of EMT's . There were other companies there. The companies I remember were 122. Somebody said 217, but I don't remember seeing them, which, again, doesn't mean they weren't there. There were probably about 20 firemen trying to help Danny.
"We were there for about five minutes. We helped Danny get loaded into the bus, went back, reformed, grabbed our roll-ups, put our Scotts back on, started walking north on Washington Street."
Then, Firefighter Joseph Meola from the, as yet unmentioned 91st, reports that:
"We went into the quarters of 10 and 10. After we were in the quarters for approximately 30 seconds -- it was a triage center at the time. After we left 10 and 10, as soon as we walked outside the door, a firefighter from an engine company 2 -- I believe it's 216, Danny Suhr, just outside 10 and 10's quarters on Liberty Street, got hit by a jumper."10 and 10," is the FDNY Ten House, Engine Company 10 and Ladder Company 10. It is at 124 Liberty Street. Both Meola and Murray describe locations around 200 feet away from World Trade Tower facade and its jumpers---but in opposite directions from each other! Conlon says his company was heading toward Tower 2 and got "about half way there," which might imply somewhere in the middle of Liberty Street, but still well north and west of either of the other two. This level of inconsistency in the narrative supports my supposition that the story of Suhr's death is entirely a fabrication, without any factual basis whatsoever.
"They were pulling him away. I believe they got him into an ambulance, and they were yelling at us to get away, because jumpers were jumping from the south tower onto Liberty Street, and a few jumpers came close to us, but no -- we met up with another company, Engine 58, which is in our battalion, which was in the 12th battalion.
"I believe they were on Liberty at the time. I don't know if they were going in the building. I don't remember, but they did make their way into the building before us, not building -- not Tower 2, but Tower 3. The Vista, Marriott. They made it into the Vista before us after -- later on."
For the record, Father Judge died in the lobby of Tower 1, four blocks north on Vesey Street, and not on Liberty Street---many hundreds of feet away from the three disparate sites mentioned in these testimonies.
"Chris," Tony Sanseviro, "Ted" Murray, and John Johnson did not give oral testimonies of their experiences from that day.
But "backup" Tony Sanseviro testified at the "trial of confessed al-Qaida conspirator" Zacarias Moussaoui, that his "close friend"---his "buddy"---his "fellow firefighter," Danny Suhr," was struck and killed by a body falling from the World Trade Center's burning north tower on Sept. 11."
Now Sanseviro says he "struggles with 'survivor's guilt.'"
Of course, Suhr could have been done in almost anywhere, given the complicity of the men in the 205, 216, and 217 companies, who are telling their stories or keeping their secrets. Along with the 91rst. And the 122, 207 and the 209th.
Very much like the treatment of Father Judge as seen in photographs and videotape from that day, the photograph below, entered into evidence in the Moussaoui trial, of a wounded firefighter being yanked or dragged, is absolutely appalling in my opinion. Is this how firemen rescue one of their own brothers who has been struck by a leaping and falling body and who likely had damage done to his helmeted head, neck and spine?
That these men could be so oblivious to reality, to common sense, to decency, is a major proof to my way of thinking that Suhr was murdered in an out-of-the-way location, and then dragged somewhere closer to the action, but not close enough to the base of the building for legitimacy---or consistency.
And Danny Suhr was no ordinary fireman. He happened to be the quarterback of the New York City fire department football team, and as such, I submit, he was likely to have been picked as a necessarily visible sacrificial victim---one of only two such public parts in the entire epic New York narrative. Dead by dint of departmental notoriety, in other words, his execution apparently not very well executed, even as a stand-alone component. But when combined to serve as the plot device killing the only other publicly featured player planned for that day, Father Mychal Judge, here we can say, hope sprung eternal.
I believe that Danny Suhr was whacked by fellow brothers from within his band of New York's Bravest. Bada bing, bada boom.
Captain Paul Conlon's testimony is also useful to see how the case of the disappearing Chief is handled. Chief Barbara literally disappears that day, and everyone in the department knows this to be the case.
"Conlon: "When I mentioned Chief Barbara, he asked me, "When did you see him last?" And I told him.EMT Richard Erdy, an EMT tech with the city fire department's Battalion 52, along with his female partner named Solano, transported Suhr to the hospital. When the interviewer asks "what hospital," Erdy responds, "I believe it's Bellevue," implying that he isn't quite sure.
"Questioner: That was my next question. Where did you see Chief Barbara last?
"Conlon: I last saw him at the command post. Where he set the command post up, it was just north of Albany. There's a building there. One Financial Center. It was right at the corner of that building, his command post, and it was on the west side of West Street. This is West Street here, not really the West Side Highway.
"The command post was just north of the corner of One Financial Center when I walked up to him. There was kind of a natural place to have a command post. There was a cutout, decorative concrete or something right there. So he was standing there.
"Question: That would have been just prior to the collapse then?
"Conlon: Well, when we reported in to him, he was there when I called for an ambulance. I'm assuming he was there, but I didn't see him there. But when it collapsed we were closer to the building than that location, so I don't think he was there.
"I thought about it a lot afterwards. He must have walked towards the lobby command post. That's all I can assume. You know what I mean? Like, were walking into the lobby command post. He must have been behind us walking in or something.
"After we put Dan into the ambulance and the ambulance took off, basically the building collapsed. We were at the corner, right at 90 West Street. The command post is across the highway and a little further south than where we were.
"That doesn't mean that he didn't get----he hasn't been found, though, I guess, so he couldn't have been there. If he was there, they would have found him, because there wasn't a whole lot of debris there, I know from afterwards. There was some steel.
"That's where I reported in to him, Chief. I reported in to him at his command post, which was on the west side of West Street just north of the corner of One World Financial Center That's the last place I saw him."
Erdy says that Dr. Kelly and an unnamed medic "walked in" to their ambulance, gravely shaking their heads to indicate the seriousness of his condition. Then two unnamed members of Suhr's Engine 216 (that would be "Chris" and Tony Sanseviro,) accompanied them on the ride.
"You could tell his neck was snapped because every time you hit a bump, a head don't have that type of movement."which seems odd. Why didn't they secure Suhr in a neck brace? For what it's worth, Erdy says the scene was well documented:
"This photographer is there. I'll tell you one photographer probably didn't make it because that one definitely would have made the news because he was right in the guy's face."That at least explains the image of Suhr being dragged by fellow firemen.
How sick and how sad to see heroes brought so low. To see them posing for the tourist's camera's, striking poses like seasoned models, makes my skin crawl. May God forgive them all.
September 08, 2002, New York Daily News, NO REPLACING 6 WHO WENT DOWN TOGETHER, Those left behind know men of Ladder 118 were side by side, by Michele McPhee,