Thursday, February 28, 2008

"Pinch" Paisley--Pentagon Worker Goes on the Offensive

Pinch Paisley, the Pentagon apologist, just sent me a long email wherein he makes several points--but his Masada, the mountain he chooses to die on, are "roll-up" doors in the A&E Drive.
Steve,

Did you ever work for the Soviets in photographic analysis? I’m asking because they used to do the exact same thing you do with regards to looking at a photo – they’d make up shit when they didn’t know what was going on. There is a great story about the Pentagon that is told – the Soviets would take their overhead satellite photos of the Pentagon and they’d see a long queue of people lined up outside the central structure in the middle of the courtyard. “Access to the secret underground control headquarters!” they would say. It was actually the lunch line outside the Ground Zero cafĂ© located in the courtyard. Picture attached.

This is a wonderful way to start. I am familiar with the anecdote about the Soviets staring at the satellite images of the Pentagon and assuming an underground bunker was in the center court. However, the "Ground Zero" cafe (somebody gag me with a spoon) wasn't there in 2001, but the famous, lamented hot-dog stand.

The Old Hot Dog Stand/Cafe
( Pinch in a comment appended to this blog said:
"A couple of corrections: The Ground Zero Cafe has been there, in the courtyard, for many decades. It got its name because everyone knew the USSR had more than a couple of ICBMs targeted on it. The "hot dog" stand was only a part of the structure and the owl is still there. Another example of you writing about things you have no idea about so you make shit up."
Yet he obviously doesn't see any inconsistency with what he said in a email to me,

"b) there is some sort of – ANYTHING – AT ALL – historical record of this sort of defense c) ANY historical record ANYWHERE of ANY building self-defense system – and that includes missiles or any sort of fired projectile. I’ll save you some time – there aren’t any. The Pentagon’s “defenses” lay in its location, pure and simple."

Everyone knows the USSR had more than a few ICBM's targeted on the Pentagon but the United States military couldn't care less?"

Pinch goes on:
I stopped by the building today and took a couple of surreptitious pictures for you. I say “surreptitious” because photographs are not permitted inside the building, but I figured a few innocuous ones wouldn’t hurt, all in the name of educating America’s citizen’s.

The first two are not just one (roll up door 1 and 2.jpg), but TWO (count ‘em…2) roll-up doors in the A-E drive. The one titled “overhead door.jpg” is taken inside the building, PROVING that it’s not just outside that they have roll-up garage type doors there. The fourth picture, AE drive.jpg, is where the punch out hole was.


Here I must thank Pinch for catapulting me into the first-ranks of Pentagon researchers, like Craig Ranke, and his CIT buddy Aldo Marquis. I bet they don't have an updated picture of the repaired "punch-out hole." Pinch again:
Now that little foolishness of yours regarding roll-up doors is put to bed, let’s move on to other parts of your email.

When I first moved up to the northern VA area, the Navy reserve unit I was assigned to was in Atlanta, GA. A reserve buddy of mine recruited me to come work on a program he had here in Crystal City, so I moved my kids and me up here in late 1999. He also had me transferred to his command that eh was in charge of – you got it, the Navy Command Center in the Pentagon. I served, in a reserve capacity with that unit, for nearly all of the year 2000. As such, I am familiar with and had seen the spaces that were hit by the aircraft on Sept 11th. I had been gone from the unit for nearly a year by the time 9/11 came around, but I was still familiar with everything that transpired.

So when you talk to me about the Navy Command Center (NCC), you aren’t talking to someone who had just read about it or seen pictures or graphics of it like yourself. Of course there is no roll-up door to the Command Center. However, there are roll up doors in a dozen or more other places all along the A-E drive, along with loading docks, recycle and garbage bins, and all the other usual detritus of an office building. The actual size that made up the NCC that bordered on the outside wall was only a small part of the 580 foot length of the inner wall of the C wing.
OK, let's repeat what Pinch says:

"Of course there is no roll-up door to the Command Center."

"The actual size that made up the NCC that bordered on the outside wall was only a small part of the 580 foot length of the inner wall of the C wing."

But all one needs to do is compare the following three images--the aerial view of the full affected length of the A&E Drive, or the view showing all three blast exits, starting from the "single door," through the "roll-up door," to the "punch out hole," correlated with the diagram of the first-floor of the Pentagon, to see that the "roll-up door" that Pinch is referring to is IN FACT dead center in the Navy Command Center!

Actually, it is quite easy to locate the so-called "roll-up door" directly to the right of a single--unaffected--door which is indicated on the diagram of the NCC as a narrow hall with steps. The "single door" which has been blasted outwards is indicated on the plan as entering a large room in the corner of the NCC.


But now things begin to be extremely problematic with Pinch's story. He says, and I repeat, "When I first moved up to the northern VA area, the Navy reserve unit I was assigned to was in Atlanta, GA. A reserve buddy of mine recruited me to come work on a program he had here in Crystal City, so I moved my kids and me up here in late 1999. He also had me transferred to his command that eh was in charge of – you got it, the Navy Command Center in the Pentagon. I served, in a reserve capacity with that unit, for nearly all of the year 2000. As such, I am familiar with and had seen the spaces that were hit by the aircraft on Sept 11th. I had been gone from the unit for nearly a year by the time 9/11 came around, but I was still familiar with everything that transpired."

Unfortunately, the spaces he says he is familiar with weren't occupied until March of 2001, several months after he left his gig with the commander of the Navy Command Center.


On March 14, 2001, a key turn over ceremony was held to commemorate the first Navy tenants to move into Wedge 1.

Pinch is careful not to say he actually worked in the part of the Pentagon struck on 9-11. He says he was under the command of the commander of the NCC, but he doesn't say who he or she is or where he physically was deployed.

At this point, before I continue with Pinch's email, I think it fair to say that either Pinch is deeply confused about the details of his NCC deployment or he is an outright liar. His "roll-up door" is centered directly within the territory of the NCC and, apparently, security was very lax if he was allowed tours in a construction zone being outfitted for some of the most sensitive work in the Navy. Pinch goes on:

Your blog post of the “missile batteries” being built in the cloverleaf was what necessitated the opening question about Soviet photographic intelligence. To make that leap, to see construction going on, in a cloverleaf no less (!) and jumping the shark to call that a missile installation construction is why I simply have to add you into the category of “moonbat”. That construction in the photo was a new access for delivery trucks and construction materiel that included a covered secure search facility. I worked in the building during that time and parked in the South Parking quite often.


I guess Pinch doesn't know what I was talking about in the photograph. Here it is again.

The Remote Delivery Facility (RDF) is to the north of the Pentagon. I am speaking about construction taking place near the underpass where Route 27 (Washington Blvd) goes over Columbia Pike (which terminates in South Parking.) Maybe I should go work for the Soviets. Pinch goes on:

And I don’t know how to tell you that what you think you see in that E-ring collapse photo is absolutely not “artillery shells” I was the one that called them 8-inch shells – know how I got that? I did a Yahoo search for “howitzer”, went to an Army artillery weapons museum page, found a big ass gun, and voila – 8” shell. Your comment of “back-handed confirmation” is also hilarious. You really need to get a better grasp on sarcasm in a post when you see it because that was all that the “painted shells” was. Artillery shell casings are *never* painted. Ever. It would present an incredible fire hazard with the heat generated at ignition and firing. You won’t want a flaming shell casing ejected in the midst of your firing crew and the other ordnance sitting around.

The comment about painted shells was left by somebody named Byron Audler over at Instapinch. He said, "BTW, I’ve seen lots of pictures of fired artillery rounds. The shell casings aren’t normally still painted. And the casings were NEVER anywhere near the explosion: the cannon-cockers are too good at what they do to have that happen." Pinch continues:

And for your information, it is not up to me to disprove anything. You have no proof other than your own fervent imagination that these were “artillery shells”. The onus is on you to prove that a) there were buried howitzers in the ground (do you have any idea of the firing mechanics of a weapon like that? How it would operate from a buried position?) b) there is some sort of – ANYTHING – AT ALL – historical record of this sort of defense c) ANY historical record ANYWHERE of ANY building self-defense system – and that includes missiles or any sort of fired projectile. I’ll save you some time – there aren’t any. The Pentagon’s “defenses” lay in its location, pure and simple.

“Exotic weaponry” – let’s just say that whatever I said about Judy Wood in my blog applies to you, as well, if you want to bring that up. I always ask if we were using such effective “exotic weaponry” on ourselves at the Pentagon or the WTC, why the hell aren’t we using it in Iraq? Nobody can seem to answer that.
Tell me what the following five images depicted Pinch old man!







The rest of Pinch's email is just drivel. The Pentagon exerted complete control over the roadways surrounding it. No one had a view of the impact area except for who the Pentagon wanted to. That means the entirety (well, almost) of the eyewitness record is fabricated with plants and shills lying out of some sort of misguided patriotism or craven self-interest.
I am resistant to all of your “points” because they make no sense and are bullshit – pure and simple. And you do yourself a huge disfavor by lumping ME and other military professionals into some sort of group-think environment. If you had ever been in a tactical jet flying off carriers, you would know that the vast majority of our decision making is done on our own.

It is also quiet apparent that you subscribe to that (again, and I overuse it but it is so apropos – hilarious) notion that all this happened in a vacuum and that NOBODY was around to see anything. When you state that you think it was possible some sort of weapon was fired from the cloverleaf – seriously, Steve, *think about this*. Washington Boulevard was full of traffic that morning. The were probably also cars ON that cloverleaf. There were another couple of thousand or whatever it was on 395. Don’t you think that SOMEONE – ANYONE - AT LEAST 1 person would have been resistant to the forget-it drug secretly fed to all those people by the Bush Evil Cabal (how they were all identified, I don’t know) and would have come forth by now, stating that they SAW all this stuff? I have absolutely (let me say that word again – ABSOLUTELY) no problem with your hatred of George Bush. Fine. Dandy. Bully! I have my own problems with some of what he’s done – I hated his immigration position, I think he’s too polite with the liberal assholes in congress (especially in this, his last year – he should tell them what Sarkosi told that idiot “Get lost, dumbass!”), I think he’s been weak in a number of areas. But when you make up shit from these photos you so eagerly pour over and imagine crap that isn’t there based on a mind made ill by such a severe case of Bush Derangement Syndrome, that is where the bullshit flag flies.

Bill
I have a deep-seated bent to want to like and respect William "Pinch" Paisley and others like him. I've given him every chance to express himself and his point of view only to see him dig himself in deeper and deeper into a miasma of lies and distortions. Who do these military figures take the American people for? Fools? Everybody connected with this enterprise in the government and the military are second-rate no-shows who couldn't pass muster in the new world order if their asses were on fire. The Disneyification of national intelligence came a few years too late. My cracked sixth sense was utilized in support of the Constitution of the United States of America. Men like Pinch are traitors to that cause. Sorry to be the one to tell you guys.

9 comments:

  1. Only you, Steve, and people like you who can't handle the complex events of life so you make up shit to satisfy your small mind. Plus, its not a fool I take you for - its an ignorant fool.

    But not to worry. You'll still get the benefit of the protection the military provides - its what we're paid to do. The rest of the country? They get it for free.

    By the way - did you try to join the military once? I ask this because you sure are pissed off and it simply can't all be because of this. I'm thinking they didn't take you for whatever reason and you're still upset. Not to worry. Life is like that. Not everyone can do what we do. You'll get over it.

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  2. Great shots of the inside of the Pentagon! How nice of your friend "Pinch" to risk national security for you!

    Ummm but I think you've got a lot more to work on before you reach our level. ;)

    JK.

    So......Bill, Pinch, or whatever you like to be called......if you haven't heard we have hard evidence proving the true flight path of the plane. Check it out: www.thepentacon.com

    Feel free to come to our forum to discuss it: http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT

    However...I warn you, none of the evidence we present is based on speculation and it definitively proves a military deception in Arlington on 9/11.

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  3. Dear Anonymous--You can keep your "protection." The souls of one million innocent dead Iraqi men, women and children hang around the necks of America's fighting force like a karmic millstone. You went to war there gleefully. Hyped up on speed, hard metal music pumping into your helmets, like a video game. Using the violence of our high-tech weapons to bomb and strafe unsuspecting civilians, but they stood up to you and you lost--because that's not how wars are won anymore. Your only immoral solution is to "nuke Baghdad." Well suffer your comeuppance. We'll see if you enter into a fight so easily next time.

    And Pinch is upset with Bush's immigration policy! You fucking losers!

    If the rest of America is too afraid to tell you what they think, I will. You've lost your mythic, hero status. You're miserable mercenaries, too lost to find your way competing in a plutocracy-ruled US of A, so you're left as prison guards and unhappy cops or career military. Muscle for the corporate interests who promise you a safe trickle down kind of life.

    But what motivates me you ask? Good question! Was I rejected and never got over it? In a way. I graduated high school in 1975. You may recall that era as a brief window when the military was in disrepute. However, I am a homo sir. One of those loud "out there" kinds. So, unlike earlier wars, like World War II, when homos were fully integrated into the armed forces (we were called officers and gentleman then) I knew to stay away. So without my kind to humanize you (not feminize you) you turned into brutal rampaging Christo-fascist murderers.

    Well guess what? You might have some shoulders on you, or maybe some meat elsewhere, but you got no meat upstairs. And wars are going to be fought and won using brain power more than muscle now. And if it's the last thing I do in this lifetime I'm going to make you wish you had some homos in your platoon. Because, let me tell you, Pinch is losing badly in these battles here, and the rest of you sound like deranged idiots.

    You know where to find me Mr. Big String Anonymous American "Protector."

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  4. A couple of corrections:

    The Ground Zero Cafe has been there, in the courtyard, for many decades. It got its name because everyone knew the USSR had more than a couple of ICBMs targeted on it. The "hot dog" stand was only a part of the structure and the owl is still there. Another example of you writing about things you have no idea about so you make shit up.

    The whole roll-up door deal is settled, then. You said there weren't any, now you agree there were. Your email of 2/26 said "What ever makes you think there was a roll-up door in the A & E Drive??!!"

    I'm glad we now agree there were, indeed roll-up doors in the building and specifically in the A-E drive. It is a silly point, but specificity is the soul of credibility, something you lack a great deal of.

    Will you read what I freaking wrote? That construction that was going on on the cloverleaf was for a construction access point and had a covered truck inspection facility built there. I know exactly where the remote delivery facility is on the north side. I would run by the entry to that section daily the summer of 2005. This west-side development was an additional facility to help out with the construction access on that side of the building. If you don't read what I write you'll never climb out of this morass of ignorance that is your world.

    Those images of the Judy Wood phenomena is nothing but the steel spire tilting slightly then falling straight down leaving the accumulated dust from the initial collapse in the air. I know that is not quite so "exotic" for your little mind to understand. Tell me...how much energy would it take for some device (from where? orbit? the Chrysler Building? the Empire State Building?) to "dustify" steel like you claim it is? You are just as much of a lunatic as Wood is.

    Like all other moonbats, you conveniently ignore things you can't explain - like my question of how many people were on Wash Boulevard or 395 that time of day. How many? How many do you think would have talked about howitzers or whatever other claims you say?

    How many, Steve? Or, really, is EVERYONE in on this? Is EVERYONE a Pentagon or Bush shill? EVERYONE?

    Its been 6 years. Someone would have come out and backed you up if there was a shred of truth to *anything* you are spewing.

    What a sad existence to believe that everyone in the world is in on this with the exception of yourself. You must find it pretty lonely in there all by yourself, you and your Great Courage.

    And for your Pentacon buddy, there was no "military deception" on 9/11. There is more bullshit and crap (like "anti-air defenses") in there than in a county of cattle farms. Knock yourself out, though. I know you guys enjoy making shit up, so have fun. Like all the other moonbats, you make shit up when things don't fit in your skewed little ideas of things. Its good entertainment, though, so keep it up.

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  5. "The whole roll-up door deal is settled, then. You said there weren't any, now you agree there were. Your email of 2/26 said "What ever makes you think there was a roll-up door in the A & E Drive??!!""

    Ya, it's settled and you lost. The image labeled "roll-up door" supposedly goes into the NCC, but you agree it can't. Are you now trying to say you weren't rebutting that point, but rebutting some general assertion that "no roll up doors existed anywhere in the A&E Drive?" Sorry for my imprecision in speech! What a joke!

    Talk about splitting hairs.

    And my God! What a foundation for a little old "covered inspection station." No wonder the military stole a trillion dollars from the budget.

    That you can excuse the evidence about the dustification of steel seen before your very own eyes is absolutely insane. We can stop talking about spent shells now. There is no hope.

    P.S. I'm not afraid to stand alone. But don't get over-confident like you did in Iraq. Millions of people--a majority of Americans think the administration is lying about 9-11, just like it lies about so much else--quietly think and feel like I do. Just because you don't see it in your myopic little world view doesn't mean our power isn't growing. Who do you think will stand with you when the revolution comes?

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  6. pinch said:

    ""phenomena is nothing but the steel spire tilting slightly then falling straight down leaving the accumulated dust from the initial collapse in the air""

    that is physically impossible for the spires of core columns to fall straight down unless they were severed by explosives at strategic points along their length.

    good ol' pinch, can't take him anywhere, it seems!

    ^ha.

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  7. This is a good article. Construction is big part.

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